Hapbee: Choose How You Feel With Scott Donnell

 

Studies have shown that serotonin, known as the “happiness chemical,” promotes well-being and boosts our mood. Do you want to feel good and happy? In this episode, Tim Westbrook brings on Scott Donnell, the CEO of Hapbee, a wearable device that is scientifically designed to promote your desired mental state at the touch of a button. Backed by fifteen years of research, Scott explains the technology behind Hapbee which mimics signals that your brain already understands, using ultra-low frequencies that help you feel calm, alert, focused, relaxed, or sleepy on command. If you want to start taking control of your mind and mood and unlock your potential, you don’t want to miss this episode.

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Hapbee: Choose How You Feel With Scott Donnell

We have my good friend, Scott Donnell. Scott Donnell is the CEO and Founder of Hapbee. He is a serial entrepreneur who has dedicated his life, both to physical and mental health. He is the Founder of Apex company, a fitness and fundraising program for schools. Apex has raised $75 million for schools and has 115 franchises and 3 million customers. Scott has joined the biotech world as the CEO of Hapbee. Hapbee specializes in ultra-low frequencies and with its patented technology, it can record small magnetic fields from chemical solutions.

With the use of the wearable device, Hapbee can deliver dozens of safe, comfortable feelings to your body at the click of a button. You can feel alert, calm, relaxed, sleepy or focused, to name a few. Hapbee products will hit the market in March 2021 and it has the potential to be what Dan Sullivan calls “The next consumer-generated revolution.” In his work, Scott has collaborated with many other world-class experts in the frequency and energy space. He’s here to share some incredible secrets about the world of frequencies and how it will change the way you see the world, your body, and the future. Scott, welcome.

It’s good to be here. That was a heck of an intro. Thanks, Tim.

That was just the tip of the iceberg, Scott. We’ve known each other for a while and what you’ve been doing, not just with Hapbee, but other things in the biotech world, we’re going to talk about. I can’t wait to talk about the Hapbee as it relates to addiction and mental illness. I also want to talk to you about your 40 days of Zen and the things that you’ve been doing to take care of yourself. I’m wearing the Hapbee right now. I have mine on Focus. What’s yours on, Scott?

Alert and Focus back and forth from the workday. Those are the go-to signals.

That’s what I do too.

We should probably talk about the name because everyone’s like, “Happy? How did you name your company Happy?” It’s not spelled like happy, it’s Hapbee. The logo is a bee. We want people to be happy but there’s no way we can buy that domain. Hapbee with wide open. We just named it a little bit misspelled and people get it.

Tell me a little bit about your journey and how you got to where you are now, Scott.

Hapbee is a revolutionary technology. I am not the scientist. I’m not the inventor. There were over a dozen PhDs working on this behind closed doors for years from the start of this. I am a problem solver like you, a serial entrepreneur, stuff I’m passionate about. I went off and had the largest school fundraising franchise. I still own it. It’s going great, Apex. MyFirstSale.com that we help kids launch businesses, but this opportunity came up because the parent company is using this technology in the medical space.

Before we talk about Hapbee, let’s back up. Why are you passionate? How did you get to where you are? Why are you passionate about helping people? You have a business that helps kids, that helps them learn how to start a business, and now you’re doing this. What brought you there?

Physical and mental fitness, that’s my lane. Anything that can help with people being physically fit, healthier in their life, mentally fit, having better mindsets, stronger ability to go after their goals, resist temptation and deal with all these things. I think you cannot have them apart. They have to be aligned. That’s what led me first to Apex. We help raise money for schools, but we do it because we teach kids fitness and character, which is for the mind. It’s all about health. It’s all about leadership and character traits. The kids do a big fun run at the end of the two weeks. I’m sure most of your people probably donated to our organization. Apex Fun Run, the jog-a-thon model. We built that up to have 100 and something franchisees, we’re in 38 states over the last couple of years. My wife is a teacher. She had a need, we helped her school. They made three times as much money as they’ve ever made, and then the whole thing blew up from there. That was my life. Whenever I find a need in that lane of mental and physical wellness, I want to solve a major problem. That’s been me this whole time, which is crazy, that led me to biotech, but here we are.

You just did 40 days of Zen, as well.

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It’s 40 Years of Zen actually. This is one of Dave Asprey, who was one of our main partners in this. He and a bunch of other smart psychiatrists and doctors put together this program up in Seattle. It’s a week-long program called 40 Years of Zen. The idea is hacking your brain, all these 8,000 brain scans, all this meditation work, tons of trauma work and forgiveness, love, gratitude, healing and breathing work. It was incredible. The goal is how can you get 40 years’ worth of meditation work trained in 70 hours in a week. It was nuts but it was incredible.

They take a lot of executives, entrepreneurs, people that want to work on mental health. It’s like a retreat for your brain. They’re aligning the right and left hemispheres, I had glue on my hair a bunch and I’m tracking my waves all week. I’m trying to get my alpha up and my beta down. The delta and high beta signals in your brain are the ones that you’re trying to reduce to stay at peace because those are like the reptilian amygdala brain logic, problem-solving, stress like, “Just go be a machine, be an entrepreneur.” That frays you, that burns you out. That’s one of the key things that causes people to burn out big, ruined, and make major mistakes in their life, or have major health problems, which is what I was having.

The alpha waves and the theta waves for imagination and whatnot, those are about love, creativity, freedom, peace, joy, all those good feelings are what they would consider Zen. Those are love feelings, feelings of true forgiveness, feelings of gratitude. My waves were zero at the start of the week and off the charts, high beta, like a reptilian machine entrepreneurial brain. What they were training me to do was to lower those significantly and increase my alpha and theta to be able to put them more on par and align them more so that I wouldn’t be fight or flight all day and every day. They were giving us tips throughout the week to be able to get there as we forgave people that dealt with trauma. We re-scripted things that were going on in our lives. We dealt with worst-case scenarios, Tim. It’s like I’m in this dark egg, sensory deprivation pod for hours on end dealing with my soul. It was incredible.

It sounds like they put you through the twelve-steps in a week. Meaning that you dug into your trauma, you sat with it, you forgave yourself, you forgave others.

They taught us what’s called a reset where you get into a place where you are at peace to start, which is they call alpha. For me, it was picturing myself in my backyard being poured over with this idea of love, freedom and peace. I just say I am free. I am loved. My heart is ever-expanding to those around me. If you say that to yourself for a few seconds, like 2 or 3 times, this is my way of learning. Everyone’s is different. My alpha wave spikes. It couldn’t do the first half of the week at all. I’m able to then have the alpha waves take over in my brain to be able to keep me in this state of freedom, peace, joy, forgiveness and love instead of letting the Intense Logic Scott, Problem-Solver Scott. Business Scott takes over and it’s not healthy to stay in that space. It was incredible. It was like a hack and then to see it all live after every pod, we would review everything and you would learn in real time. It was cool.

It’s similar to Kamal Ravikant’s book Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It. 

The hardest part of the entire week was forgiving ourselves. Everyone says that, hands down. Being able to deal with our demons and forgive ourselves, whether it was something dumb, hard, painful or stupid we did. Forgive yourself for letting this go on too long, letting this person hurt you too long, letting your body decay for long. Forgiving yourself is a very difficult thing to do and the way they taught us to do it was you close your eyes. You get into this good space of alpha, and then you pick a setting and someone that you’re going to charge, whether it’s yourself or someone else, with a trauma or something you have to forgive or a crime against you or something.

You have a judge. He’s not a judge. He’s more of a guide. Mine was Jesus. Someone else’s was an eagle. You have this judge in your mind, that’s with you, you bring the charge against them. You feel it for a couple of minutes and then you move to love. It’s called find the gift. You don’t justify, you drop your opinions, you drop your judgment and you find what’s the gift in this miserable thing that happened. Not justifying it, but what’s the gift. For instance, if there’s a trauma with your parents, maybe that makes you treat your kids with so much more love, kindness, more hugging, I love you and time together. That’s a gift that comes out of that.

You can have this love and then you can move towards forgiveness of that person. Not justifying any of it, but saying, “The gift is what this did for me, to me to be able to make my life ultimately better and stronger.” You can move through to true forgiveness and actually hug these people in your dream, even miserable, painful. I’ve had millions of dollars taken from me, crazy things happen, and childhood issues. It’s amazing to get to that freedom. It lifts a veil. It lifts a ton off your back and lifts a veil of scale that felt like a million dollars and I’d go home and pass out every night, out like a light. It was incredible.

I’m sitting here thinking about gratitude. I know that I have to get to a place of gratitude for every single thing that happens, whether I think it’s good or I think it’s bad. Instead of, “Why did this happen?” It’s, “I’m grateful that this happened,” and this is the gift, to your point. I also know that I have to forgive myself before I can forgive somebody else. That sounds like an amazing journey that you went on with that 40 Years of Zen.

It was incredible. I would highly recommend it to anybody. If anyone is interested, let me know. I’ll hook you up. I get a discount for others now. Shout out to Dave and the team for building it. They’ve had a thousand people or so go through. They are only taking 6 or 7 a week.

Let’s talk about Hapbee. Let’s go back to where we started. Tell me about Hapbee, where it came from and how it works, and so forth.

 

This sounds crazy. I know it sounds like Star Trek, let me just get that at the beginning. It’s a technology that uses these very precise magnetic fields. Those magnetic fields, we licensed them from our parent company out of Seattle called EMulate Therapeutics. They can mimic and analyze these certain molecules, everyday molecules, sleep aids, muscle relaxants, cups of coffee, happy hour drinks, and things that you might ingest in your body, but they can give you the sensation. They are pulling the magnetic away off of these molecules to then create a signal that can mimic a feeling that you’re trying to get.

Let’s say you drink a few cups of coffee in the morning to help yourself be more alert. You click a button in our app, the Alert signal, which I know you’ve been using this. You can start to feel more alert. Focus, the one that you and I both love, it’s triggering a specific response in the body to help you zone in on one thing to focus in. It’s a nice buzz that meets a heightened sense of awareness around you. It’s almost like a smoke-free break in a way, but there are no carcinogens in your body. There are no toxins in your body. There are no drugs or chemicals. It’s just a frequency. That’s the basis of the technology. It’s been in the works for about several years from our parent company.

A bunch of PhDs got together and they had this crazy idea that what if a molecule that we put in our bodies, what if that has a wave? What if it has electrostatic surface potential? If it does, that’s what creates a non-covalent bond, all you chemists reading. If we could get that and pull it out, it might be able to help people feel a certain way. That’s what they were able to prove out here with 37 patents in all these countries and $80 million into the technology. The guy who led the team to invent Cialis is the chief scientist, Dr. Kenneth Ferguson. He and Dr. Mike Butters were one of the main ones as well. Their whole team scoured the globe to see if there was a recording device so precise that it could start listening in at the molecular level hearing these things. They ended up finding this Naval technology called magnetometers, and this was out of San Diego. These devices are used by the Navy to search out fighter pilots and nuclear submarines because they have an electromagnetic wave coming out of them. It’s an amazing technology.

Several years into it, they finally got some readings and some signals and started working on animals. They’ve helped people with cancers, with brain tumors. There are hundreds of people in FDA trials. It’s an amazing technology. I invested in them a long time ago. It was a lot of money for me at the time to help them get going with this mission to help people feel better without needing to put any potentially harmful chemicals, pills, powders or whatever in their body. A few years ago, it turned out they were interested in going after the consumer market and that’s my expertise. I came in, we licensed their technology. They get a royalty. They have a piece of our business. We have our team and we’re building up this awesome consumer technology. It’s an app-based wearable. We have more form factors being built as we speak for other uses, but I can’t talk about that yet. You play the signals you want.

Let’s take one of the signals for example and explain to me exactly how that works.

There are six. I’ll say all six and then we’ll go into one of them. We got Alert. That one is great for the morning or when you’re trying to ‘pick me up’ in the middle of the day.

What does that signal mirror?

A couple of cups of coffee, without the shaky hands or diarrhea. I love chai tea. I love to get that as a stimulant from these drinks. A lot of people love coffee. We’re not saying don’t drink coffee anymore. We’re saying you might not have coffee all day. You might not have that third cup. Maybe you do it with a cup of coffee, that’s what a lot of people do. We have Relaxed, which is for your muscles. It melts your muscles down after a workout or if you’re achy or sore. A lot of people use that after sitting all day. We have Calm, which is for your head. It’s like a check out for your head. That was the de-stress. That’s the biggest one for at the end of the workday. We have a Focus signal, which we already talked about. It’s what you and I love the most. It’s like Workday 1.0. It triggers a certain response in your body to help you just dial in, and then Sleepy. That is one of our most used signals. It is like a sleep aid.

You put it under your pillow, turn it on for a few hours right when you go to bed and people track their aura stats. It helps them get into deep REM. Those are our first six. As you can tell, use them all as much as you want. Everybody chooses a couple that’s their favorite. They just use them. Their family uses them and they take them on trips. They take them on walks. They use them at work. They use them for bed. There are about 50 different use cases already. I can’t go into all of them, but it’s unlimited use of all of them as much as you want. It’s like Netflix for your feelings.

Pick one of them and tell me exactly the science. I know because I wear it. The first time I wore it, you asked me. You said, “Which is your favorite signal?” I said, “I don’t know. I wore Focus all day today and I got a lot done.” It’s very subtle. It’s not mind-blowing. It doesn’t blow you away.

It’s not crash-your-car signals. That wasn’t the goal. These are subtle shifts that help you get into state.

Explain the science that supports the device.

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We can take Alert because it’s simple. If you ingest a couple of cups of coffee, you’re going to get a stimulant. It gets down to covalent and non-covalent bonds. Covalent bonds are chemical bonds to the receptor sites on your cells to change their shape and cause and effect. We can’t do those. There’s no way that our technology can mimic any of that stuff because you physically have to have something there. Non-covalent bonds are like a remote-control charge. It’s an exchange of electrons, like a frequency in your body when you ingest certain things. Stimulants and suppressants and things of the like are mostly non-covalent bonds.

What if you could, to a degree, cause that sensation in the body, just through a trigger, like a remote control? That’s what we believe is happening. In our labs, our scientists that the parent company in Seattle are working around the clock, studying, analyzing, creating signals from studying these molecules, and pulling off a very precise signal that plays through this device. This is a copper wire that plays a signal on your body and you, over time, start to get more and more of these sensations as you use it. Which one did you say you do? Alert or Focus?

I go back and forth. I do Alert in the morning typically, and then I do Focus during the day while I’m working. I do Calm or Relaxed in the evening, typically. Before I go to sleep, I’ll wear the Sleepy for 30 minutes.

That’s the thing. People use them for all different use cases, whatever you need. I go back and forth all the time. I’ll use different signals, but my favorite thing is they’re subtle. Now, they affect me within a couple of minutes. When I started, it was what you said, 15, 20 minutes, maybe a few tries, an hour goes by. The more you do it, the more it starts to get the sensation and understand what’s going on. I don’t have to ingest things that can hurt me. The whole mission here is we don’t want people to be hooked on substances, pills, chemicals, potions, powders, smoking things or whatever. We’re not saying that we’re better than all those things. We’re just saying that there’s an alternative to help you feel a certain way without having to put all that junk in your body.

Sometimes it affects more quickly and some people can feel it. I’ve let lots of people use this and I’ve had people put it on, and within 2 or 3 minutes, you can see their demeanor completely change. I had my friend, Macy, he put on Focus. We were watching the UFC fight and he completely changed and was zoned in on the TV. It’s like, “That was crazy.” Jesse, over at Optimize, put on the Happy signal, and literally within a couple of minutes, he could feel it. He was laughing and giggling. My friend, Donnie, the same thing. He put on Happy and within a few minutes, he was giggling. For me, I can feel the effects pretty quickly, typically within 5 or 10 minutes, and some people can’t feel the signals at all.

For some people, it takes ten days. My chief coder said it took him 34 times of trying it, and then he finally started to feel it. Now, he loves it. For some people, it takes time to build the pathway. Some people, it’s difficult to connect with the feeling. There was a huge study that came out at the beginning of 2020 that there’s 10% of people that cannot connect feelings to their body really at all unless there’s severe pain or something. They can’t pack down stress and trauma and emotion. Here’s a good example. My good friend, Gabe, he is a dentist. He’s the President of the 1-800-Dentist in Arizona, the association. He said he’s got a chunk of his patients who come in for Novocaine shots and that does absolutely nothing to them. They cannot get that feeling, even though they have the drug in their body. Some people are that way. The body is a crazy thing. The best thing I can say is we probably have about 10%, which matches that study, of people that are like, “I’m a low feeler, I don’t feel it much or I don’t feel it at all. Help me.” We can do coaching. We’ll coach people to try this signal and then try Alert and then Sleep. There are ways to help you feel the difference. Once you start to get them, then you’re good to go.

Sometimes people are like, “I don’t know, I can’t figure out anything.” If at the end of the day, they don’t like it, we give them all their money back. We have a 30-day money-back guarantee for anybody. There’s no risk. Try it out. If you love it, enjoy it. At the end of the day, I don’t want anybody using the product who doesn’t like it. We try to make it risk-free for people. We are finding out more and I have to be very careful as I say this because it sounds weird. Undealt with trauma is probably the single greatest factor to people that resist this device and its ability to affect your body. I’m not going to tell disgruntled customers, “You probably have undealt with a trauma that you have to deal with before you feel our signal more,” but that’s part of this.

Here’s a great example. At 40 Years of Zen, one of the people that were there bought the product before they even met me. He said, “I used it for three weeks. I felt one a little, but I didn’t feel the others.” I was like, “Bummer. I’m happy to give your money back.” He’s like, “I gave it to my friend. They loved it.” We did four days of trauma work at 40 Years of Zen. I gave him my Hapbee. He put on the Happy signal and in one-minute flat, he was like, “This thing is nuts.” His name is Rick and he loves it. Now he’s using his Hapbee all the time back home. He went and yanked it back, and now he’s using it every day. This is something that we’re working on.

We’re getting the signal stronger as time goes on. We’re adding more signals for people. It’s like a membership model. It’s like Netflix. We’re going to be launching new signals every few months into the app for everyone to use. We want to have high levels of it, lower levels of it. For some people, it’s too strong, probably like your buddy. Some people, it’s way too much. They’re like, “This is crazy.” They’ve got to turn it off after 5, 10 minutes, but we’re working on different levels of this to let people set their preferences.

A person struggling with mental health, how does the Hapbee help that person?

Here are our customers. Functional medicine people love this. Biohackers go nuts. They love it. Counselors, psychiatrists, for their patients and themselves, they love it. It gives you more control of your emotional state. It eases you into what you want to feel like, and you don’t have to get addicted to ingesting something into your body. A lot of people turn to alcohol, drugs, cigarettes or other things. The list goes on and on. They’re usually running from something. It’s their version of therapy. It’s to mask pain at the end of the day. Our company, one of our missions, we’ve got Genius Recovery, who I’m sure many of your audience knows. Joe Polish is one of our main advisors and investors. He’s in it because of that. He cares about people who are recovering and giving them an alternative that can help them feel great throughout the day without having to turn to substances and other things that might hurt them.

For us, the mission of Hapbee is to help people engage in life. That’s why I love your show. We want people to love their life and be more balanced, have more joy throughout the day, be able to enter into a work state, have more energy, de-stress quicker after work, without popping open a bottle. They then get to sleep deeper when they go to bed at night. Those are really good things for people. Hapbee is not a cure-all. It’s not going to fix everybody’s everything. It’s a tool in the tool belt like working out, good sleep, a healthy diet, people that you love, and showing gratitude. These are all tools in the tool belt. We just want to be a part of it from the wearable technology perspective because we can give you these sensations right away. A lot of people find a lot of benefit from it.

 

Can someone get addicted to wearing the Hapbee?

No. That’s one of the big questions that we get. We get two questions. One of them is, “Can I build a tolerance?” The other one is, “Can I get addicted?” What we’re seeing is no, it’s not creating any chemical addiction in your body. There are not any toxicological side effects to what this is doing in your body. We’re firing pathways in the body to create a specific sensation for a period of time. When you turn this off, there’s no dovetail. It’s like 15 to 25 minutes or so, you’re back to base. It helps people. It helps train them to get to these states faster but it dissipates. It’s just a signal. There’s nothing being metabolized. I would go as far as saying, whereas addictive is maybe an app, except we’re a good app. We’re not like The Social Dilemma that’s triggering a slot machine dopamine hit, and you’re stuck on your phone all day, wishing that your friends would like you more. We’re more of a ‘click and go, engage, enjoy your life and be free’ kind of an idea. I would put us in the good tech category.

For example, someone wants to stop drinking coffee. They want to quit caffeine. Can they use the Hapbee, the Alert signal, as a way to help them transition off of drinking coffee and caffeine?

It’s a great tool for helping people cut back, cut cold turkey. What it does is it gives you another healthy habit instead, so much like breathwork helps people going on a run. When I feel tempted to do something, I’ll go on a run or I will switch up the habit to make it a healthy habit instead of a negative one. That is where we come in strong. It is a fantastic thing to use instead. Here’s a good example. We’ve got to be careful. I can’t just say, “Hapbee is the cure-all, and it’s going to fix all your problems and you can get off anything cold turkey.” Everyone’s different. We have heard a lot of testimonials and reviews of people that say, “I totally use this. I was a military veteran and this is incredibly helpful for me to de-stress. I smoked for 30 years. This is helping me cut that.”

Smoking is a good example. When I turn on that Focus signal, I get a similar buzz feel, but it also zones me in, which is why people like it. When you hear the click and you click the click of the play and it buzzes to start, it’s enough of a parasympathetic response. It’s enough of a trigger, a prompt to help somebody mentally overcome the same thing as a light, deep breath, and a blowout of exhale of stress. Do you see the difference? If we can try to create a new prompt for people, it can change their habit much easier than something that’s difficult to do, like run a mile or find the nearest cold pool to jump. That’s what I would say to that.

Tell me about your morning routine. I like asking this question.

This isn’t a perfect world because I’ve got three young kids. We were up four times a night with our six-month-old, so this is tongue-in-cheek. The perfect morning for me would be getting up between 6:15, 6:30. I don’t set the alarm. I usually get up and my body is on the clock. I get up, do some devotion prayer time, meditation for 30 minutes before kids go nuts. Kids are up, I’m helping with breakfast. I’ve got fifteen vitamins because of my 100-day challenge that I’m in the middle of. I’m taking a ton of pills every day. Everything from my gut to supplements to flora, the list goes on, and then I will do a workout. I usually do the CrossFit gym down the street at my buddy Lance’s place and do an hour of whether it would be lifting mixed with cardio, and then try to walk home and do my first call.

I love walking and talking in the morning. I try to do one call a day. This is what my doctor, and Whitney Jones mentioned this as well, who I know you’ve talked to a lot. She’s coaching me through this program. She’s like, “Do an hour a day walking on a call. Try to take a call a day and walk.” That’s probably the best thing you can do long-term for your body, for your mitochondria, for your cellular health, for fat stores. You’ll move it through and wake up your body. It’s easy to do on a call.

Don’t try to run. Don’t make it hard. She does that and she’s Ms. Olympia. She’s the female Arnold Schwarzenegger. She says, “I try to walk for 45 minutes to an hour a day, or a hike or something that’s a brisk walk and doing a call. It is the easiest habit replacement.” That’s a great one. At home, I have a 46-degree pool and a hot tub. I’ll do 90 seconds back and forth three times to get my body jumped. Sometimes I’ll intermittent fast and I won’t eat until lunch, but if I do eat breakfast, it’s going to be like scrambled egg whites with a mixture of a bunch of different veggies in it, and maybe some turkey in there or chicken. That’s my morning routine.

That sounds like a solid morning routine.

Plant-based protein shake as well. I forgot that.

What do you want people to have walked away from this conversation knowing?

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I think there’s amazing technology out there that can help people feel great and be in control of their emotional state and their feelings throughout the day. That’s something that a lot of people don’t know exists. People feel stuck, they feel stressed. They feel like there are not many answers for them. They’re struggling to get themselves to a place where they can have more energy, more productivity, better sleep, and Hapbee is a great alternative for that. It saved my life in 2020. You and I have talked a lot about the stress 2020 was. We went public with this thing in Toronto already after eighteen months. It’s been nuts. I realized that I was on the verge of a mental breakdown within my stress load and Hapbee was the only thing keeping me tethered, balanced and going for long.

I’m realizing now, all the other things that need to be worked on, my health, my diet, and all this stuff with exercise. Biohacking is awesome. It’s one of my favorite things to do now with you. Ozone, cold pools, compression and red-light therapy, it all have to come together if you’re going to be serious about your long-term health. I would say deal with stress. That’s one of the biggest things I would tell them. You’ve got to deal with your stress in some way, shape or form because the issues stay in the tissues. You can’t put it away and think that it will be gone. That’s how trauma gets built. There’s got to be healthy ways to deal with stress and there are unhealthy ways. Hapbee is one of the best healthy ways to deal with stress management. We have a link for people, Hapbee.com/tim. People can go there and they’ll get a discount, it’s like $50 or $80 off. We’ll make sure people get that.

How can people connect with you, learn more about you and more about Hapbee? We’ve got the discount code, Hapbee.com/tim to get a discount for the device. I wear my device almost every single day and I know lots of other people who wear the device as well. It’s a newer device, but more and more people are starting to wear it.

It’s fun to be on some of these calls where we see a dozen people using it. It’s like a high-performance aid without having to turn to a bunch of chemicals. It’s like a helper. That’s the best way to make it easy. If people want to connect, you can connect with us at @GetHapbee is our Instagram handle. We’ve got a bunch of fans over there. Also, you can email me at Scott@Hapbee.com. I’d love to connect with anybody. We are launching a partnership affiliate program. Dave Asprey, he’s one of our mainstay investors. He launched the first major partnership. Jim Kwik is on the team, Joe Polish, Kevin Harrington, the original Shark on Shark Tank. All of these random awesome functional medicine people in the energy space, counselors, psychologists. People who are defecting from traditional Western medicine and insurance and they’re saying, “You’ve got an amazing product that can help people.” It’s not going to be available at hospitals because we don’t want to sell it to you for $10,000 or something. We want to give it to you as cheap as possible online, right to their door. We’d love to partner up.

Tell people why is this not available or why is this not prescribed by physicians, doctors and medical professionals?

The parent company is doing the medical side, that’s the main reason. EMulate Therapeutics out of Seattle are in FDA trials. They’re several years in or more working with brain tumors actually, and they’re discussing the pain sector as well. They’re going to have their form factors that are going to be going through doctors, physicians, and things like that. We’re just the consumer arm. We’re not making medical claims. We’re dealing in moods, feelings, general wellness, mental health, things that give people almost like you would wear WHOOP or a ring, or put a constant glucose monitor, all these different things to help your body. That’s what we’re in the space for. Most direct stim products in this industry are in the general wellness category and it’s by design. The other path that we chose not to do was go down FDA, get a bunch of medical claims, spend $50 million on each of them and then charge you $10,000 for the product. That is not how I roll.

I’m not that kind of an entrepreneur. I’d rather have it be easily available, accessible to the general public, and not go down the medical route. We definitely prove our claims. We’ve done blinded and sham studies. People can tell that this thing works. They can tell between Sleepy and Alert. It works. We’re doing a focus study, the sleep study. There’s more and more coming. We’ve got to prove our claims, but what I’m talking about is I’m not going to go through doctors and insurance and that racket because anybody reading knows this game. They 10X the price and they make it only available to certain types of people, and that’s not how I roll.

Scott, I sure do appreciate you spending time with us. I learned more about you and your product. Thank you so much.

This was awesome. Thanks for your time.

Important Links:

• Hapbee
• Apex
• MyFirstSale.com
• Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It
• EMulate Therapeutics
• Genius Recovery
• Hapbee.com/tim
• @GetHapbee – Instagram
• Scott@Hapbee.com

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